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One of my members engages "Based Southern Belle" on the homosexual issue her presence brings to the table

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bill casebill case
20 hours ago (edited)
Homosexuality was not "accepted" in ancient greece or rome, just like in the present day homosexuality always existed in the past but it was considered a degenerate behaviour and it was punished, all your gay promoting is western jewish/american crap ,please read a few greek authors , homosexuals were mocked and called euryprôktoi (wide asses), read a few aristophanes quotes about the kinadoi ,they were considered sub-human and didn't have any right to participate in goverment (read Aeschines, Against Timarchus), Alexander the great was not a blonde twink ,he was a strong greek mediterranean guy with dark hair. If you are lesbian i respect your life choice and wish you luck but you are using a historical lie just to make an excuse for your homosexuality and its not a good way to start a political movement ,you are not a conservative, you are just a Trump supporter/Republican.
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Based Southern BelleBased Southern Belle
20 hours ago
1) That is a "no true scotsman" fallacy.
2) A good majority of myths from both Greek and Roman myths included homosexuals, again, see Patroclus and Achilles, one of the most prominent, Nisus and Euryales, who were both lovers and brave warriors, and died together on the battlefield, and others. There are also historical examples like Sappho, who was praised by Plato for her poetic ability, who was a lesbian, and the sacred band of thebes, which was an entire army comprised solely of homosexuals. Simply because some disagreed with it does not deter the fact that it was a commonality.
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bill casebill case
18 hours ago (edited)
You are quick making an argument from a fallacy wich is a fallacy itself , but you forget to build your argument with facts and you ignore the facts i posted ,you say a "majority" of MYTHS , most of these are western/american interpretations of greek and roman MYTHS, sappho had a lover: phaon that was a man so if you believe that she was a real person(most of her poetry is "lost") you will have to admit that she had a male lover in some point of her life, now read aeschines against thimarcus A REAL event that really happened, aeschines was a greek statesman and thimarcus was a prosecutor , aeschines avoided the trial making refences to laws that existed since the 7th century BC. But he was guilty as sin if it was not for some old laws protecting him as a stateman he would have been executed.

aeschines against thimarcus 12

The teachers of the boys shall open the school-rooms not earlier than sunrise, and they shall close them before sunset. No person who is older than the boys shall be permitted to enter the room while they are there, unless he be a son of the teacher, a brother, or a daughter’s husband. If any one enter in violation of this prohibition, he shall be punished with death. The superintendents of the gymnasia shall under no conditions allow any one who has reached the age of manhood to enter the contests of Hermes together with the boys. A gymnasiarch who does permit this and fails to keep such a person out of the gymnasium, shall be liable to the penalties prescribed for the seduction of free-born youth. Every choregus who is appointed by the people shall be more than forty years of age.
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bill casebill case
18 hours ago
Aeschines against timarcus 13

If any Athenian shall outrage a free-born child, the parent or guardian of the child shall demand a specific penalty. If the court condemn the accused to death, he shall be delivered to the constables and be put to death the same day. If he be condemned to pay a fine, and be unable to pay the fine immediately, he must pay within eleven days after the trial, and he shall remain in prison until payment is made. The same action shall hold against those who abuse the persons of slaves.
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bill casebill case
18 hours ago
This clearly states that the laws did not apply ONLY to those who had prostituted themselves but to those who had homosexual relationships:

Snap9410Avialae - boy-girl? Whatever works like Is a Jew white?. Her video clamers about gay women staying feminine but if that were true or she really meant it, she wouldn't look so boy like in the pictures. It sounded good till we saw you weren't walkin it, Belle

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“Or the man who has failed to perform all the military service demanded of him, or who has thrown away his shield.” And he is right. Why? Man, if you fail to take up arms in behalf of the state, or if you are such a coward that you are unable to defend her, you must not claim the right to advise her, either. Whom does he specify in the third place? “Or the man,” he says, “who has debauched or prostituted himself.” For the man who has made traffic of the shame of his own body, he thought would be ready to sell the common interests of the city also. But whom does he specify in the fourth place?

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If therefore Misgolas is willing to come forward here and testify to the truth, he will be doing what is right; but if he prefers to refuse the summons rather than testify to the truth, the whole business will be made clear to you. For if the man who did the thing is going to be ashamed of it and choose to pay a thousand drachmas into the treasury rather than show his face before you, while the man to whom it has been done is to be a speaker in your assembly, then wise indeed was the lawgiver who excluded such disgusting creatures from the platform.
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bill case

bill case
18 hours ago (edited)
If homosexuality was openly practiced in ancient greece why it was punished by the law with DEATH penalty
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Based Southern Belle
Based Southern Belle
16 hours ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Greece

False. Relationships between younger males was a societally acknowledged process. (Pederasty also occurred per our records).
I guess the sacred band of Thebes never existed, then?
Sappho DID have relationships with women. Look at her own poetry- and yes, she was a historical figure from 620-580 BC, approximately.
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Based Southern Belle
Based Southern Belle
16 hours ago
http://www.historytoday.com/louis-compton/army-lovers-sacred-band-thebes

Well, that's inconvenient.
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bill casebill case
16 hours ago (edited)
LOL you are claiming a historical text like aeschines against timarchus is fake?..... pederasty was punished by death read aeschines against timarchus 12 or my previous posts. "against timarchus" obviously explains some the laws of ancient greece and pederasty ,prostitution and homosexuality was not considered a "normal" behaviour and was punished , if you don't have valid arguments against this text's legitimacy you should not say that it is fake, your argument is invalid,And it exposes your lack of knowledge of greek historical texts.
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Based Southern Belle
Based Southern Belle
15 hours ago
I didn't say it was fake. I said your claim is false. One of the most prominent divisions of Greece's military was comprised entirely of homosexuals. 150 pairs of them. It's called the Sacred Band of Thebes. Read.
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Joseph Sigur
Joseph Sigur
1 hour ago (edited)
I'm glad you two are getting along. Bill is a member of my site and he's smart. Don't worry Belle, the ppl you need to herd are much stupider...also, got to ask, how do you get to be best friends with a girl from South Africa. Care to give some history on that?
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bill casebill case
1 hour ago (edited)
My claim is not false , since i'm quoting laws of most of greece in that timeline, the sacred band of thebes is a tongue in cheek account of plutarch and if you read his account you will see that he was not taking it seriously as a historical fact, extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence , and the evidence that the sacred band of thebes ever existed is paper thin at best, even if they existed probably they were a bunch of eunucs used for religious rituals, there is no evidence that they were involved in military , the only bit of evidence is a burial with a bit more than 200 people , and alexander army destroyed all of thebes army , so there should be 300 lovers buried and not 200, note that neither xenophon or plutarch said that this burial was for the Sacred Band of Thebes , xenophon's account is the most accurate because he was an actual soldier and is the earliest source, and he never mentions any Sacred Band by name involved in military , even if they had pairs of lovers on the theban military there is no evidence that all of them were homosexual.For me The Sacred Band of Thebes is just a romantic tale pushed by (((western historians))), have a good day
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